Sunday, April 11, 2021

Soccernostalgia Talk Podcast-Episode 43 (Scotland National Team 1984/85 with David Stuart and Clark Gillies)

 

This is the 43rd episode of my podcast with Mr. Paul Whittle of https://the1888letter.com/, @1888letter.

We continue our interview series with Mr. David Stuart of the Scotland Epistles Football Magazine https://scotlandepistles.com/ and Mr. Clark Gillies as we discuss the matches of the Scotland National Team for the 1984/85 season.

Mr. David Stuart and Mr. Clark Gillies who will be our guests for the continuation of these series.

Mr. Stuart is a former fanzine writer and co-founder of the Scotland Epistles football magazine. Co-author of two books on the Scotland national side along with Robert Marshall.

Mr. Gillies has written in the past for These Football Times and The Football Pink. 

 

 

For any questions/comments, you may contact us:

You may also contact me on this blog, on twitter @sp1873 and on facebook under Soccernostalgia.

Mr. Paul Whittle, @1888letter on twitter and https://the1888letter.com/contact/

You may also follow the podcast on spotify under ‘Soccernostalgia Talk Podcast’

Mr. Stuart’s contact info:

twitter: @davstu11

https://scotlandepistles.com/

 

Mr. Gillies’ contact info:

twitter: @wanderer1982

 

Listen on Spotify:

 https://open.spotify.com/episode/46r6thB0BBuvUWqXEYlrvI?si=wYz9WLVoTtydg_uL3BxcpA 

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  5. FIFA originally planned for the second placed teams in European Zone 4-team groups to play in a 3-team section with winners qualifying for the World Cup and runners-up playing off against Oceania section winners. The 3rd place team would not qualify. This would have resulted in a 3-team section of Belgium, Holland and Scotland, which would have been a tough task for Scotland. However some nations lobbied FIFA as this would result in a further 4 games for the team winning the play-off section, and 6 for the runners up (12 games to qualify in total) in an already packed domestic and European programme.

    At the FIFA congress in May 1984, FIFA amended the qualifying procedure to the arrangement we are familiar with, namely, two European zone runners-up playing off against each other and the third playing off against Oceania zone winners. In this respect, Scotland were the lucky ones to be drawn (or at least have their section Group 7 drawn, as qualification had not begun at that point) against the weaker Oceanic opponents rather than European opponents.

    On a tenuously related Scottish note, the qualifying system for European zone in the 1982 World Cup was also amended after the draw but this is recorded incorrectly on Wikipedia and not recorded anywhere else I have found on the internet, other than the scans of a Scottish newspaper in late 1979 that reported the change.

    This concerns the participation of Israel in the European Qualification zone. This was not confirmed prior to the qualification draw, and Israel were not ranked as recorded on Wikipedia as 5th seeds for the draw, they were not included at all. Instead Groups 1 to 5 consisted of 5 teams, Group 6 consisted of 4 teams and Group 7 only 3. At the draw on 14th October 1979, Group 6 consisted of Scotland, Sweden, Portugal and Northern Ireland. Israel were added a few weeks later. Without the games involving Israel, the points tally are Scotland 7, N.Ireland 6, Sweden 6, Portugal 5, but who knows how the group would have developed differently without their participation. Sweden slumped to a disappointing 1-1 draw at home to Israel in their first game which couldn't have helped morale and then promptly lost at home to Scotland 0-1 in their second fixture so were struggling to qualify from the very beginning. In any case, as a Scotsman I am happy with the way things turned out in both cases. In the qualification stages anyway!

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