tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post5602229565613151449..comments2024-03-17T23:33:54.394-07:00Comments on Soccer Nostalgia: New Addition: Debate Topic, Part onesp1873http://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-33138324936315503222013-10-26T07:31:56.372-07:002013-10-26T07:31:56.372-07:00nice article please join in my simple blog
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Zico, Falcao and Cerezo meet in udinese-Roma, 1983: http://video.gazzetta.it/udinese-roma-zico-falcao-di-natale-totti/a2585f74-3d6e-11e3-8db9-990df42f6d32Simone Odinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456415405405055172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-13563616450264067712013-10-25T17:34:25.690-07:002013-10-25T17:34:25.690-07:00I agree!I agree!Simone Odinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456415405405055172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-89773239135832476692013-10-23T02:48:02.447-07:002013-10-23T02:48:02.447-07:00It also often claimed that santana didnt take rein...It also often claimed that santana didnt take reinaldo because of his disciplinary record. Not because of his injury.. He wasnt seriously injured at the time of the 82 world cup ?? I know he badly fouled zico in the atletico mineiro vs flamengo match in 81.. There was alot of bad blood between mineiro and flamengo. 2 equally matched teams in the early to mid 80s.. And santana didnt want a player bringing trouble to the squad.. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-88059774072999351052013-10-22T23:17:48.729-07:002013-10-22T23:17:48.729-07:00A debate topic on classic football players teams a...A debate topic on classic football players teams and games would be a great idea mateAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-77606782245401809272013-10-22T23:15:21.265-07:002013-10-22T23:15:21.265-07:00You may have a point about brazil not expecting it...You may have a point about brazil not expecting italy to attack... But socrates oscar and junior have all said that brazil were too overconfident that day. They had just thrashed the world champions and thought a draw or a win against italy was a formality... And if you watch that whole game you notice how poor serginho was.he did nothing and was no threat at all.the miss was pathetic. Yes he wasnt on the pitch when italy got the winner but with a decent forward who knows what damage brazil could have done to italy. And santana must take the blame for thatAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-49557882416143178482013-10-22T23:02:23.569-07:002013-10-22T23:02:23.569-07:00Yeah i remember guivarc'h mate.... But france ...Yeah i remember guivarc'h mate.... But france 98 were a different team to brazil 82.. Brazil were all about atrack ...france 98 were much more defensive minded... It was a crime brazil didnt take a more skilled forward.. But like you say it is possible to win without a class striker. I just think brazil were crying out for a forward- not just to score but to link up play and beat a defender Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-38936772582355733872013-10-22T20:16:08.315-07:002013-10-22T20:16:08.315-07:00Let me ask you all, what would you think about a d...Let me ask you all, what would you think about a debate topic every week?sp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-83384900628382497362013-10-22T14:29:36.273-07:002013-10-22T14:29:36.273-07:00I think brazil just did not expect Italy come out ...I think brazil just did not expect Italy come out and attack from the start, remember Italy HAD to win to advancesp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-56069101746829965202013-10-22T14:24:37.992-07:002013-10-22T14:24:37.992-07:00It's still possible to win a World Cup without...It's still possible to win a World Cup without an excellent striker, remember Stephane guivarc'h in 1998sp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-65149221725348722142013-10-22T14:06:44.102-07:002013-10-22T14:06:44.102-07:00Avz... I have spoken to quite a few brazilians who...Avz... I have spoken to quite a few brazilians who were in there 20's during the 1982 world cup... And all of them have said that they blame tele santana for brazils loss to italy.. They seem to think santana could have chosen a different player at centre forward. Some say that if brazil had played italy 10 times italy would have won once... Others say that brazil were far too overconfident and arrogant in that game... Id be interested in any opinions you can find from fellow brazilians who watched that game live... Thank youAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-67235399409114689242013-10-22T11:03:45.369-07:002013-10-22T11:03:45.369-07:00Thank you for your reply avz.. I know that serginh...Thank you for your reply avz.. I know that serginho is considered a sao paulo hero for the goals he scored but his technique was poor .. We have players in england who are legends for their clubs and score loads of goals but never have the quality or ability to play international football. Serginho didnt play for brazil again after 1982 did he ? So even though he scored alot he got overlooked by other managers.. Tele santana was a great man but me and alot of other people believe he should have found another option in attack for the brazil 1982 team. I am aware of the writing of jonathan wilson ( inverting the pyramid book) and to a degree i agree with the naive theory. But with a top striker i believe brazil 82 would have scored more goals. I agree the game has changed mate but not totally for the better. The back pass rule was a great change, and the pitches nowadays are perfect. But MONEY has definitely ruined the game and GREED has taken over... Money is the motivation for results and this mentality has destroyed the art of the game in my opinion. Nowadays footballers are judged on their fitness size stamina work rate. Managers seem to build teams to get results but at the same time they forget people want to be entertained.. Football is an entertainment business. It used to be the peoples game until it sold its soul.. Im not saying there are no great players or teams today..there are..barcelona and spain of the past few years are great teams no doubt.. But after half an hour of watching them i am bored.. There is no risky passes played no variatio- just low risk possession football.. I doubt in years to come people will be searching for spains greatest goals of the world cup 2010 because there arent any ! Its dour.. Sometimes they go through a match without a shot at goal ! And that is the difference for me.. I dont wanna watch robotic football played by athletes! Theo walcott is the perfect example of a modern footballer.. Quicker than usain bolt but with no football brain.. Yes it would be hard for a team to play like brazil 82 today.. But i bet zico eder socrates and falcao would have loved to play on the perfect pitches we have now.. With the perfect boots and lightweight kits and the modern diets and training facilities. Footballers are definitely fitter today but i wouldnt say that makes them better players.. Today there are no gentiles or butchers from bilbao and no tackles from behind. The balls have changed for the worse. You kick a modern football and it dips and changes directions without any real power or effort. So you could say the brazilian players of 82 would have it easier in many ways. It just comes down to fitness.. You have to judge a team by the era it came from.. You cant say spain 2010 were better than brazil 70 because theres 40 years between them.. Some of the players of today would not survive in the past and vice versa.. Also the world cups have lost their magic because nowadays we know virtually every single player in the world. There will never be another josimar or schillaci that comes out of the blue. Football the game we love has lost alot of its magic and id be interested to know if others agree with me.. Is football still as loved as it once was in brazil avz ?????Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-5201015012931052252013-10-22T09:34:27.762-07:002013-10-22T09:34:27.762-07:00A lot of people over here blame that defeat for th...A lot of people over here blame that defeat for the defensive football we begun to play (specially in international level). I think thats a very delicate discussion, because we never know if we had players like them we would play beautifully again or not. In 1994 we won playing defensivelly with Romario geniality, in 2002 i liked the agressiveness we had with the ball (Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo were very hard to stop, with usefull bench options as Denilson, Edilson and even an young Kaka), but it was more a speed kind of team then a "envolvente" one as in 1982.<br />Jonhatan Wilson wrote that the 1982 defeat wasnt about offensiveness x defensiveness or beauty x practical, but the 1982 seleção was a naive team. I dont know, i like to believe that the football has changed and playing as the 1982 team played is harder today but still possible Avzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975054681916146390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-27280665199410616942013-10-22T09:20:40.296-07:002013-10-22T09:20:40.296-07:00The whole team here is seen as a very very special...The whole team here is seen as a very very special generation. Actually its the only team i`ve heard being compared to the 1970`s Pele.<br />Zico, of course, is seen as the best player in that team, maybe the best player in brazilian football after Pele (we talk a lot about Garrincha and other Pele`s partners, but I would say Zico is seen as the 2nd one, even if we dont admit it). Then Socrates was also a genius, a player and a person who was special. Falcao is seen as a volante (defensive midfilder) who has the abillity of great playmakers, maybe the best volante in brazilian football. Those 3 are the most comented, followed by Junior, Eder and Cerezo. In club level, Chulapa, Dinamite and Oscar are very very valued by their supporters also.<br />Tele is seen as a football genius, someone who`s principles were a well played football, being offensive and always trying to be better then the oponent. After the 1986 World Cup he became seen as a bad-luck guy (Pé Frio), but after the 91 and 92 Libertadores with Sao Paulo that passed and he finished his career as a very victorious coach. I`ve heard a lot of players trained by him saying that in discipline, game mentality and technique he was the best coach they ever had Avzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975054681916146390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-33775891343880033932013-10-22T09:06:20.962-07:002013-10-22T09:06:20.962-07:00Actually I deleted my self and reposted because i ...Actually I deleted my self and reposted because i would like to be notified about replies. Thank you!Avzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975054681916146390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-81755086691604808002013-10-22T02:10:57.018-07:002013-10-22T02:10:57.018-07:00Just saw your comment simone... Yes the italian le...Just saw your comment simone... Yes the italian league used to be great mid 80's 90's .. All quality imports and big names..( the three foreign player rule in the 80s ) now serie a is full of imports the same as in england ( though not as bad) .. There arent many english players left in the premier league. I prefered it with less imports to be honest.. When italy played like italy brazil played like brazil and the germans played like germans... Nowadays its almost identical the world overAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-49151250172861123702013-10-22T00:32:17.668-07:002013-10-22T00:32:17.668-07:00Hey simone... World soccer magazine collection 198...Hey simone... World soccer magazine collection 1988 - 1995 is on ebay mate Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-1520520181637277782013-10-21T15:11:53.857-07:002013-10-21T15:11:53.857-07:00Jarni was part of 95 scudetto squad then he transf...Jarni was part of 95 scudetto squad then he transfered to betissp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-74685445549729379872013-10-21T15:05:54.334-07:002013-10-21T15:05:54.334-07:00Yes we were, but sadly the balance shifted and now...Yes we were, but sadly the balance shifted and now all the best is abroad. We have to stick with the leftovers of the other leagues: Llorente, Tevez... Kaka... :-(Simone Odinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456415405405055172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-73080048036220763312013-10-21T15:03:47.313-07:002013-10-21T15:03:47.313-07:00Yes i remember little joao paulo brilliant player....Yes i remember little joao paulo brilliant player. I remember watching him in the copa america 91 i think. Brazil have had quite alot of really good players that have faded away or never reached their true potential. Joao paulo was one of them in my opinion.. Neto, djalminha,denilson,robinho,adriano there are loads. I didnt see much of branco at genoa to be honest a few games. His free kicks were on par with eder's. Ronaldo the phenomenon i already knew you were gonna say him ! A freak of nature the best forward i have ever seen the best individual footballer i ve ever seen. He could do things maradona couldnt. But for a strike partnership maradona and careca were great to watch. You lucky git for living in italy at a time of so many great playersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617103490752247865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-91646055565483718042013-10-21T14:45:59.928-07:002013-10-21T14:45:59.928-07:00Yep, and they were not as brilliant as him (in Bar...Yep, and they were not as brilliant as him (in Bari, of course, as while Farina was quickly forgotten, Boban went on to shine for Milan and Jarni played some good consistent football for Juve - If i remember well he won the champions league with us, or the '95 "scudetto" (league title)Simone Odinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456415405405055172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-4892524164356193992013-10-21T14:43:27.117-07:002013-10-21T14:43:27.117-07:00Joao Paulo was badly injured in one of the first m...Joao Paulo was badly injured in one of the first matches of platt with Bari in 91/92 season, this may have contributed to their relegation as he was a key member of the squad, he was lost for the season, so Bari put him on ice along with Australian farina and got boban on loan and also jarnisp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-48753686927509814682013-10-21T14:40:55.503-07:002013-10-21T14:40:55.503-07:00I guess I'm still trying to come to terms with...I guess I'm still trying to come to terms with that! :-DSimone Odinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456415405405055172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6017254390576943441.post-13681684711564022062013-10-21T14:40:30.970-07:002013-10-21T14:40:30.970-07:00Hello Avz I may have accidentally deleted this com...Hello Avz I may have accidentally deleted this comment of yours, please checksp1873https://www.blogger.com/profile/16069718565337417648noreply@blogger.com