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Wednesday, May 8, 2024

International Head-to-Head –Part 16, Germany v. Scotland (with a video Interview with Mr. David Stuart of https://scotlandepistles.com/)

 


In this Blog Presentation with an interview, 
I look back at the past encounters between Germany and Scotland.

The Interview will be as a video link companion, while the Blog will be a presentation of the events.

 

The Interviewee is:

Mr. David Stuart

 

Mr. Stuart is a former fanzine writer and co-founder of the Scotland Epistles football magazine. Co-author of two books on the Scotland national side along with Robert Marshall.

 

Mr. Stuart has appeared before on the podcast discussing the matches of the Scotland National Team.

 

Mr. Stuart’s contact info:

twitter: @davstu11

https://scotlandepistles.com/

 

Links of books, co-authored with Mr. Robert Marshall:

https://www.amazon.com/Scotland-Country-Collectables-David-Stuart/dp/1785315455

https://www.amazon.com/Scottish-Football-Souvenirs-Golden-Years/dp/1785318640

 

 

My contact information:

on twitter @sp1873 and on facebook under Soccernostalgia.

https://linktr.ee/sp1873


Listen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0R5bURaKdcEAkrI8gYnLwa?si=wqn51YOhRQ6wvcmIv0wFug&nd=1&dlsi=b59e62f1a7a2491b

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soccernostalgia-talk-podcast/id1601074369?i=1000655000913










1920s

 

The first match between the Nations was a friendly on June 1, 1929, in Berlin, that ended in a (1-1) tie.

It was the first match on German soil and the first tie in the series.


Photo From: Die Geschichte der Fussball Nationalmanschaft, Author: Dietrich Schulze-Marmeling (Hrsg)

(June 1, 1929, Germany 1-Scotland 1)



 

1930s

 

The sides me once in this decade as well in another friendly. On October 14, 1936, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated Germany (2-0).

This was the first match on Scottish soil, and the first win in the series.

It would also be the last match involving a unified Germany until 1992.

 

1950s

 

It would be another two decades before the sides met again. On May 22, 1957, Germany, now as West Germany, hosted Scotland at Stuttgart. Scotland won (3-1) in the first away win in the series.

Two years later, on May 6, 1959, Scotland hosted Germany at Glasgow and won (3-2).

 

1960s

 

The sides met three times in this decade. On May 12, 1964, at Hannover, West Germany hosted Scotland in a (2-2) tie.

In 1969, the sides met twice in the World Cup qualifiers. On April 16, 1969, at Glasgow, the match ended in a (1-1) tie. This was the first time that the Germans had not lost on Scottish soil.

For the return fixture on October 22, 1969, at Hamburg, West Germany won (3-2) and qualified to the 1970 Mexico World Cup ahead of Scotland.

Astonishingly, this was the first ever German win over Scotland after 40 years of encounters.

 

Photo From: World Soccer, April 1968

(May 12, 1964, West Germany 2-Scotland 2)



Photo From: Wizards and Bravehearts, A History of the Scottish National Side, Author David Potter, 2004

(April 16, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, Scotland 1-West Germany 1)



Photo From: Die Geschichte der Fussball Nationalmanschaft, Author Dietrich Schulze-Marmeling (Hrsg)

(October 22, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, West Germany 3-Scotland 2)



Photo From: World Soccer, December 1969

(October 22, 1969, World Cup Qualifier, West Germany 3-Scotland 2)




1970s

 

The sides faced one another in two friendlies ahead of the 1974 World Cup that the West Germans were hosting. On November 14, 1973, at Glasgow, the match ended as a (1-1) tie.

On March 27, 1974, at Frankfurt, West Germany won (2-1).

Scotland also faced East Germany for the first time ever during this decade, in two friendlies.

On October 30, 1974, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated the East Germans (3-0).

On September 7, 1977, at East Berlin, East German won this time (1-0).

 

 

Photo From: Wizards and Bravehearts, A History of the Scottish National Side, Author David Potter, 2004

(Scotland squad, November 14, 1973, Scotland 1-West Germany 1)


Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Spain, 1974

(October 30, 1974, Scotland 3-East Germany 0)


1980s

 

During this decade Scotland, Scotland mainly faced East Germany. The sides were in a European Championship qualifying group for the 1984 Euros.

On October 13, 1982, at Glasgow, Scotland defeated East Germany (2-0). For the return fixture, on November 16, 1983, at Halle, East Germany defeated Scotland (2-1). In the end, neither qualified from this group.

The sides met one more time in a friendly on October 16, 1985, at Glasgow, that ended scoreless.  This was the only tied match between Scotland and East Germany.

 

The only time, Scotland met West Germany during this decade, was during the 1986 World Cup in Mexico at Querétaro, on June 8, 1986. The West Germans won (2-1) after Strachan had given Scotland the lead.

This would be the last ever match against West Germany before re-unification and the first time the sides had met at a neutral venue.

 

Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Switzerland, 1983

(October 13, 1982, EC Qualifier, Scotland 2-East Germany 0)



Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Romania, 1986

(October 16, 1985, Scotland 0-East Germany 0)



Photo From: Onze, Issue 153, September 1988

(Richard Gough, June 8, 1986, World Cup, West Germany 2-Scotland 1)



1990s

 

Scotland faced East Germany for the last ever time, prior to re-unification of Germany, in a friendly at Glasgow on April 25, 1990. East Germany won (1-0) with a penalty kick by Thomas Doll. This was East Germany’s first and only away win over Scotland.

 

Scotland faced Germany (as a unified Nation), for the first time since 1936, during the 1992 UEFA European Championships. On June 15, 1992, at Norrköping in Sweden, Germany won (2-0) in a Group match. This was also the second time the sides had met at a neutral venue.

The following year, on March 24, 1993, Scotland hosted Germany at Glasgow. The Germans won (1-0), this was the first ever away win of the Germans in the series.

The sides met in a friendly at Bremen on April 28, 1999. Scotland won (1-0) with a Don Hutchison strike. This was Scotland’s first win over Germany (West or Unified) since 1959 (and their first away win since 1957). Though it must be said, the Scots had defeated East Germany in the intervening years.

 

Photo From: Official Match Programme, Scotland v Poland, 1990

(Scotland squad, April 25, 1990, Scotland 0-East Germany 1)



Photo From: France Football, Issue 2411, June 24, 1992

(June 15, 1992, UEFA European Championships, Germany 2- Scotland 0)



Photo From: Guerin Sportivo, No 26 (901), June 24-30, 1992

(June 15, 1992, UEFA European Championships, Germany 2- Scotland 0)




2000s

 

The sides met twice in 2003 in the 2004 Euro qualifiers. On June 7, 2003, at Glasgow, the match ended as a (1-1) tie.

On September 10, 2003, at Dortmund, Germany won (2-1) and would qualify from the group for the 2004 Euros in Portugal.

Scotland were managed by former West German defender and later National team Manager Berti Vogts.

Vogts had played against Scotland in the two 1969 matches and in 1973 and 1974. He had also managed Germany against Scotland in 1992 and 1993.

 

Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/2003-scotland-germany-1-1-0-1/

(June 7, 2003, EC Qualifier, Scotland 1- Germany 1)



Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/2003-germany-scotland-2-1-1-0/

(September 10, 2003, EC Qualifier, Germany 2- Scotland 1)



2010s

 

The last time the sides met was during the 2016 Euros qualifiers.

On September 7, 2014, at Dortmund, Germany won (2-1) with a double strike from Thomas Müller.

Exactly a year later, on September 7, 2015, at Glasgow, Germany won (3-2) at Glasgow. It was Germany’s second ever away win and the first in an official match.

Scotland were managed by Gordon Strachan, who scored against West Germany in 1986 and played against East Germany in 1982 and 1983.


Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/2014-germany-scotland-2-1-1-0/

(September 7, 2014, EC Qualifier, Germany 2- Scotland 1)



Photo From: https://impromptuinc.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/2015-scotland-germany-2-3-2-2/

(September 7, 2015, EC Qualifier, Scotland 2- Germany 3)



 

Conclusion

 

On balance, Scotland had the early edge for the first decades into the 1960s.

However, Germany has had the edge certainly since the 1969 World Cup qualifiers, when they won for the first time.

There were more meetings with East Germany in the 80s, but the only time they faced the West was the more important World Cup Finals match in 1986.

In the 1990s, Germany had the edge by winning in the 1992 Euros and a friendly at Glasgow (for the first time ever in 1993).

Scotland did win in a friendly in 1999, but Germany has had the edge in the post-millennium era in two Euros qualifying groups.

The sides are set to meet during the 2024 Euros on June 14, 2024 at Munich.

 

 

 

Note:

1-Please refer to the video link at the top of this blog upload for the interview.


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