The 57thepisode
of my podcast with Mr. Paul Whittle of https://the1888letter.com/, @1888letter,
'Soccernostalgia Talk Podcast’ is up.
For this episode, we continue our interview series with Brazilian
Journalist, Sports Commentator and Author Mr.
Eduardo Monsanto, as we discuss the Brazil National Team matches under
Tele Santana in 1981.
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A new addition to the podcast
process, the idea is to see how
the interviewee views events after analysis post podcast, also questions that I
may have had that came to my mind after the podcast
This
interview was conducted with Spanish
Author and Historian Mr. Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro @SVilarino days after podcast.
Soccernostalgia Question: Can you describe the
state of the Spanish National Team at the start of the 1982/83 season following
the disappointment of the 1982 World Cup at home?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response:Quite simply: nobody was safe. The World Cup had been
a huge disappointment and no member of the squad was spared from criticism. So
when Muñoz was appointed, he was expected to revolutionize the team.Bring new
blood into it and lead the change of the guard.
Soccernostalgia Question: Was the Spanish public
weary of Football after a World Cup or was there excitement with a new manager
and season?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: There was a sense of disappointment and doubt: are we
any good? This was a very important campaign, because it helped to calm the
waters and shut up all the naysayers (who were a lot, especially among the
press).
Soccernostalgia Question: At this point in time,
Miguel Munoz was 60 years old and his best days, as a Manager, seemed to be
behind him. How was he chosen and what was the public and press reaction?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: Nobody wanted to become the NT manager after España82.
It was an easy task, but Muñoz, being the winningest Spanish coach at that
time, had the experience and the character to do the job. He was considered a
decent choice, although there was a lot of people saying his main task was to
“clean up” all the Basque players (from Real Sociedad and Athletic Bilbao), and
reinstate the Real Madrid block, which he did partially, but not in the way
everybody thought.
Soccernostalgia Question: Why did Miguel Munoz
refuse to call-up the likes of Juanito, Tendillo, Pericho Alonso, Zamora and
Satrustegui?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: They were seeing as mains culprits of the disaster of
82. Some (Zamora, Satrustegi, Alonso), because they were over the hill,
Tendillo because he didn’t have enough experience (although he is going to
remain on the fringe of the NT during the decade, he was a good defender), and
Juanito’s character played against him.
Soccernostalgia Question: From Miguel Munoz’s
new caps for this season 1982/83, only Juan Senor and Goikoetchea stayed on for
many years, while Roberto, had more of an impact after 1986 World Cup and
perhaps under Luis Suarez, how do you view Miguel Munoz’s experimentations?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: He needed to find a solid defensive block to have the
foundations of his team. So he was using a number a different players till he
found the defensive pairing of Goicoechea (that’s the way his name was written
at the time), and Macedo, with Camacho’s support. Gallego, Victor and Señor
will helped them from midfield. Once Muñoz had that block, he started to focus
on the attacking side (Carrasco, Rincón, to help Santillana). Roberto will be
for years a player who was in and out of the team. Skilled, with decent passing
ability and ready to work. Useful.
Soccernostalgia Question: At first glance, the
3-3 away at Dublin, seemed like a result at the time, but in retrospect it
could have been a costly lost away point, how is Spain’s performance viewed today?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: It left a bittersweet taste because Spain had it in
the bag, and let that point slip. In this kind of group, every point (every
goal!), counted. That why, although it was a decent result, left a question
mark on the performance of the team.
Soccernostalgia Question: Was the win over
Holland (1-0), the most significant result of the season?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: Yes, for several reasons. Because Spain beat his
strongest opinion, and started to believe that qualifying was a possibility.
Also because it was the came out party for Rincón and Sevilla as the National
Team talismanic city.
Soccernostalgia Question: The win over Holland
some may dismiss as a win with a penalty kick, but the (2-0) win over Republic
of Ireland showed that Spain can win when needed and qualify, how do you see
that win?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: Solid performance that confirmed that Spain was actually
a good side. Even some Spaniard needed that confirmation!
Soccernostalgia Question: Was there media or
public demand to re-integrate some of the discarded players such as Juanito and
others?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: Not really. The main media outlets were based in
Madrid and Barcelona, and sick of seeing Basque players in the squad.
Soccernostalgia Question: How did ‘AS’ and ‘MARCA’
generally view this season?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: As I said, the media had a pretty destructive campaign
against the Federation president. Every criticism against the team was seen as
a shot fired against him. You don’t want that type of atmosphere around the NT,
but it is very common if the main newspapers don’t like a key figure.
Soccernostalgia Question: It appears that all of
Spain’s matches were on TVE, did they have an influence like the print press
would have had?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: TVE was pretty neutral.
Soccernostalgia Question: The away matches in
May 1983 vs. Malta and Iceland seem to have been lost as far as highlights,
while the match in Dublin is not. Were the matches in May ever broadcast that
you would know of or is it perhaps because of the quality of the opposition
that TVE saw no need to broadcast them?
Note: Assuming that to be the case, I am not 100% sure, these matches
were not broadcast, but I have not found any footage
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: They weren’t, as far as I know. Just published some
images on the news. It was more common that we may think now to not have
important matches nationally televised.
Soccernostalgia Question: At this point, how did
the National Team compare to the previous year’s World Cup at home?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: The group was tighter, and the feeling was that Muñoz
had created a team. So it was all improving after the WC. The tournament played
in Spain destroyed the NT atmosphere, which had been pretty good during the run
up to the tournament.
Soccernostalgia Question: As good as Spain’s
season was, it was still hard to imagine that this team would be in the Final
of Euros in a year’s time, at this point would qualification been a success in
itself after the disappointing World Cup?
Sergio Vilariño
Ferreiro Response: Yes. Qualifying for a Euros was very difficult, so
just making the tournament was already a success. Nobody believed Spain would
go on and go all the way to the Final.
November 17,
1982, EC Qualifier, Dublin, Republic of Ireland 3-Spain 3 (Ashley Grimes 2, Frank Stapleton 64, 76 / Antonio Maceda 31, Mick Martin (own
goal) 47, Victor 60)
Competition:UEFA European
Championship Qualifying-Group 7
Result: Spain
1-Iceland 0
Venue:Malaga, Estadio
La Rosaleda
Attendance: 15,132
Referee:Mario Da Silva Luis (Portugal)
Linesmen: Fernandes Correia and Silva Santos (both Portugal)
Kick-off time: --
Goalscorers:
(Spain): Pedraza 59
(Iceland): None
Summary of goals:
1:0 (59th minute,
Spain): After a series of passes on
the right side, Juan Jose’s ground level cross was slotted in by Pedraza, also
with a ground level shot.
Lineups:
Spain:
1-Luis Maria ‘Arconada’
Echarri (Real Sociedad de Fútbol)
3-Jose Antonio ‘Camacho’
Alfaro (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
2-‘Juan Jose’ Jimenez
Collar (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
5-Francisco ‘Bonet’
Serrano (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
4-‘Gerardo’ Miranda Concepcion (Fútbol
Club Barcelona)
8-Juan Antonio ‘Senor’
Gomez (Real Zaragoza)
10-‘Roberto’ Fernandez
Bonillo(Valencia Club de Fútbol)
6-Rafael ‘Gordillo’ Vazquez
(Real Betis Balompié-Sevilla) (14-‘Francisco’ Javier Lopez Alfaro
(Sevilla Fútbol Club) 46)
7-Juan Carlos Gomez
‘Pedraza’ (Club Atlético de
Madrid) (16-Enrique ‘Martin’ Monreal
Lizzaraga (Club Atlético Osasuna) 81)
9-Carlos ‘Santillana’ Alonso
Gonzalez (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
11-‘Marcos’ Alonso Pena (Fútbol Club Barcelona)
Other Substitutes:
Francisco ‘Buyo’ Sanchez (Sevilla
Fútbol Club)
Antonio ‘Alvarez’ Giraldez (Sevilla
Fútbol Club)
‘Victor’ Munoz Manrique (Fútbol Club Barcelona)
Jesus Maria Satrustegui (Real
Sociedad de Fútbol)
Coach: ‘Miguel Munoz’ Mozun
Team Captain: Luis Maria ‘Arconada’ Echarri
Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas
Uniform Colors: Red Shirts, Blue Shorts, Black Socks
Note:
1-National Team
debuts for ‘Juan Jose’, Bonet, Roberto,
Senor, Francsico, Pedraza and Martin Monreal
2-Gerardo’s next match for
Spain would be in 1985.
Photo From: Todo Sobre La
Seleccion Espanola, Felix Martialay, 2006
(Spain squad, October 27,
1982, EC Qualifier, Spain 1-Iceland 0)
Date: November
17, 1982
Competition:UEFA European
Championship Qualifying-Group 7
Result: Republic
of Ireland 3-Spain 3
Venue:Dublin, Lansdowne
Road
Attendance: 35,000
Referee:Jan Redelfs (West Germany)
Linesmen: -
Kick-off time: --
Goalscorers:
(Republic of Ireland): Ashley Grimes 2, Frank Stapleton 64, 76
(Spain): Antonio Maceda 31, Mick Martin (own goal) 47, Victor
60
Summary of goals:
1:0 (2nd minute,
Republic of Ireland): Robinson
struck a shot that was blocked and he passed back to Grimes at the edge of the
box. Ashley Grimes struck from the edge of the box to the top right-hand
corner.
1:1 (31st
minute, Spain): Santiillana’s free
kick from the left side was volleyed in by the Maceda, left unmarked on the
right side.
1:2 (47th
minute, Spain): From the middle,
Victor released Senor on the right side, his shot from a narrow angle was
deflected in by Martin.
1:3 (60th
minute, Spain): On the left side,
Marcos sent through Victor, who went around McDonagh to score.
2:3 (64th minute,
Republic of Ireland): Brady’s free
kick from the left side was headed in at the near post by Stapelton.
3:3 (76th minute,
Republic of Ireland): O’Callaghan
crossed from the right side to the far post for Stapelton to head in.
Lineups:
Republic of Ireland:
1-James Martin ‘Seamus’
McDonagh (Bolton Wanderers Football Club
/ England)
2-John Anthony Devine
(Arsenal Football Club-London / England)
4-Michael Paul ‘Mick’ Martin
(Newcastle United Football Club / England)
5-Mark Thomas Lawrenson
(Liverpool Football Club / England)
3-Christopher William Gerard
Hughton (Tottenham Hotspur -London / England)
8-Anthony Patrick Grealish
(Brighton Hove and Albion / England) (14-Michael Anthony ‘Mickey’ Walsh
(Futebol Clube do Porto / Portugal) 60)
6-William ‘Liam’ Brady
(Unione Calcio Sampdoria-Genova / Italy)
7-Augustine Ashley Grimes
(Manchester United Football Club / England)
9-Kevin O'Callaghan (Ipswich
Town Football Club / England)
10-Francis Anthony ‘Frank’
Stapleton (Manchester United Football Club / England)
11-Michael John Robinson
(Brighton Hove and Albion Football Club / England)
Coach: Eoin Kevin Joseph
Colin Hand
Booked: Michael Paul ‘Mick’ Martin
36
Team Captain: Anthony Patrick Grealish
Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas
Uniform Colors: Green Shirts, White Shorts, Green Socks
Spain:
1-Luis Maria ‘Arconada’
Echarri (captain) (Real Sociedad de Fútbol)
3-Jose Antonio ‘Camacho’ Alfaro
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
2-‘Juan Jose’ Jimenez Collar
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
5-Francisco ‘Bonet’ Serrano
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
4-Antonio ‘Maceda’ Frances (Real Sporting de Gijón)
8-Juan Antonio ‘Senor’ Gomez
(Real Zaragoza)
10-‘Victor’ Munoz Manrique (Fútbol Club Barcelona)
7-Juan Carlos Gomez ‘Pedraza’
(Club Atlético de Madrid) (16-Enrique ‘Martin’ Monreal Lizzaraga (Club Atlético
Osasuna) 76)
9-Carlos ‘Santillana’ Alonso
Gonzalez (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol) (15-‘Roberto’ Fernandez Bonillo (Valencia Club de Fútbol) 81)
Coach: ‘Miguel Munoz’ Mozun
Booked:
Juan Jose 16, Bonet 41, Marcos 71 Maceda 84
Other Substitutes :
Francisco ‘Buyo’ Sanchez (Sevilla
Fútbol Club)
Antonio ‘Alvarez’ Giraldez (Sevilla
Fútbol Club)
‘Gerardo’ Miranda Concepcion (Fútbol
Club Barcelona)
Team Captain: Luis Maria ‘Arconada’ Echarri
Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas
Uniform Colors: Red Shirts, Blue Shorts, Black Socks
Note:
1-Second and Final caps for Pedraza and Martin.
2-Roberto would also be out
of contention and his next match would the 1984 Euro Final as a substitute on
June 27, 1984, France 2-Spain 0.
Photo From: Special thanks to
Josele Carbonell
(November 17, 1982, EC
Qualifier, Republic of Ireland 3-Spain 3)
Photo From: Voetbal
International
(Spain squad, November 17,
1982, EC Qualifier, Republic of Ireland 3-Spain 3)
Photo From: Todo Sobre La Seleccion
Espanola, Felix Martialay, 2006
(Spain squad, November 17,
1982, EC Qualifier, Republic of Ireland 3-Spain 3)
Date: February
16, 1983
Competition:UEFA European
Championship Qualifying-Group 7
Result: Spain
1-Holland 0
Venue:Sevilla -Estadio Ramón
Sánchez Pizjuán
Attendance: 45,000
Referee:Paolo Bergamo (Italy)
Linesmen: Enzo Barbanesco and Giancarlo Redini (Italy)
Kick-off time: --
Goalscorers:
(Spain): Juan Senor 43 pen
(Holland): None
Summary of goals:
1:0 (43rd minute,
Spain): Spain were awarded their
penalty kick after Carrasco was fouled by Schrijvers in the box. Juan Senor
scored from the ensuing penalty kick.
Lineups:
Spain:
1-Luis Maria ‘Arconada’
Echarri (Real Sociedad de Fútbol)
2-‘Juan Jose’ Jimenez Collar
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
4-Antonio ‘Maceda’ Frances (Real Sporting de Gijón)
5-Andoni ‘Goikoetxea’
Olaskoaga (Athletic Club de Bilbao)
3-Jose Antonio ‘Camacho’ Alfaro
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
10- Ricardo ‘Gallego’ Redondo
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
11-‘Marcos’ Alonso Pena
(Fútbol Club Barcelona) (Hipolito ‘Rincon’ Povedano (Real Betis
Balompié-Sevilla) 46)
9- Carlos ‘Santillana’ Alonso
Gonzalez (Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
7- Francisco Javier ‘Carrasco’
Hidalgo (Fútbol Club Barcelona)
Coach: ‘Miguel Munoz’ Mozun
Booked:
Marcos 44, Bonet 51
Other Substitutes:
Francisco ‘Buyo’ Sanchez (Sevilla
Fútbol Club)
‘Juan Jose’ Jimenez Collar
(Real Madrid Club de Fútbol)
Jose Ramon ‘Nimo’ Maldonado
(Sevilla Fútbol Club)
Team Captain: Luis Maria ‘Arconada’ Echarri
Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas
Uniform Colors: Red Shirts, Blue Shorts, Black Socks
Note:
1-Fourth and Last cap for Bonet (1982/83).
2-Luis Arconada equaled Jose Iribar’s
record of 49 caps for Spain.
3-Spain protested the fact
that they had to play Malta at Malta’s home stadium, while rivals Holland were
able to arrange to stage Malta’s ‘home’ match at nearby Aachen, West Germany.
Photo From: Special thanks to
Josele Carbonell
(May 15, 1983, EC Qualifier,
Malta 2-Spain 3)
Photo From: Special thanks to
Josele Carbonell
(May 15, 1983, EC Qualifier,
Malta 2-Spain 3)
Photo From: Todo Sobre La Seleccion Espanola, Felix
Martialay, 2006
(Spain squad, May 15, 1983,
EC Qualifier, Malta 2-Spain 3)
Photo from: 45 Sena ta' Football Internazzjonali ta'
Malta, Author Joseph A. Sacco
(Malta squad, May 15, 1983,
EC Qualifier, Malta 2-Spain 3)
Date: May
29, 1983
Competition:UEFA European
Championship Qualifying-Group 7
