Monday, August 29, 2022

Soccer Memories-Part 42, When Johan Cruyff ‘almost’ Managed Holland in the 1994 World Cup

 

By 1992, Johan Cruyff’s vision of attractive Football was evident with the success of FC Barcelona featuring the likes of Stoichkov, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, and a young Josip Guardiola.

The Dutch had qualified for the 1992 Euros that was to serve as the swan song of veteran Dutch Manager Rinus Michels.


Photo From: Het Nederlands Elftal, De Histoire van Oranje, 1905-1989, Author Matty Verkamman

(Rinus Michels lifting the European Championship trophy, June 25, 1988, European Championships, Holland 2-USSR 0)



The 1994 USA World Cup was on the horizon and with the qualifiers in the Fall, a new National Team Manager was required. Naturally, the Dutch Federation (and the Public) clamored for the man who had transformed Barcelona into one of Europe’s best. This team would shortly (in May 1992) win its very first Champions Cup. This Barcelona Generation would be dubbed the ‘Dream Team’ and the example to follow for future Barça Teams.

While naturally everyone wanted Cruyff, he himself was less enthused. The life of an International Manager with 8-10 matches a year and seeing the players perhaps once a month was limiting to him. He preferred the daily grind of club Football where he felt he could achieve more working with players.

The Dutch Federation were so desperate to have Cruyff that they produced a compromise. Dick Advocaat, at the time Michels’ Assistant, would be in charge through the qualifiers. Following qualification, he would stand aside as Cruyff would take over at the World Cup Finals.


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 41, June 1992

(Johan Cruyff)



Photo From: World Soccer, February 1994

(Dick Advocaat)



It would be unimaginable for any Manager to accept such a condition, but we must remember at that time Advocaat was unknown and did not have the same credit that he would gain as a top-level Manager at home and abroad into the next decades.

Advocaat accepted the task and faced difficulties: the surprising challenge of Group winners Norway, Ruud Gullit’s on-again/off-again National Team retirements and Marco Van Basten’s injury that would force his retirement in a couple of years.

He did complete his task and did qualify the Dutch to the American World Cup on November 1993.

However, on the eve of the World Cup Draw on December 18th, 1993, the Dutch Federation announced that talks with Cruyff had broken down. They had tried to contact him for days, but their fax and phone contacts had gone unanswered.

Photo From: World Soccer, April 1993

(Johan Cruyff)



The Federation announced that Advocaat would continue as Full-time Manager into the World Cup with a new four contract. Advocaat accepted after discussion with senior players.

A reason for the parting of the ways concerned Cruyff’s salary and kit for the World Cup. Cruyff ran a clothing line and he wanted to wear his own tracksuits and naturally the Federation was opposed, given their existing contract with Adidas.


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 71, December 1994

(Johan Cruyff)



The Dutch would travel to the World Cup with Advocaat in charge and would acquit themselves well by reaching the Quarterfinals and losing to eventual winners Brazil (2-3) in an exciting match.

Shortly after the World Cup Cruyff broke his silence on the reasons. He downplayed the financial aspect of the dispute. He said the discrepancy was over $40,000, which was a small amount, since the Dutch reached the Quarterfinals and made a profit of $1 Million dollars for the Federation (KNVB).


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 66, July 1994

(July 9, 1994, World Cup, Brazil 3-Holland 2)



He also said that the KNVB had told him about half the personnel of the National Team would change following qualification, yet he saw the same players that were to leave at the World Cup.

This reason does not seem valid, because as the Manager in charge, he would have picked the players he would have desired.

He was also dismissive of the Dutch Team’s attitude. He felt they behaved like a friendly team who were simply happy to participate and leave with an acceptable loss. According to him, he would have created a more competitive atmosphere.

Difficult to tell if Holland would have performed better with Cruyff in charge. Perhaps, Ruud Gullit would not have left the squad just before the Finals. His presence and Cruyff’s pressure and undoubtedly different tactics might have been more effective (or not).

However, this incident was yet another example consistent with the narrative that the Dutch create their own problems ahead of World Cups and it would not be the last……


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 71, December 1994

(Johan Cruyff)



Friday, August 26, 2022

World Cup Stories-Part Two (Czechoslovakia at the 1990 World Cup-part a World Cup Qualifiers)- an Interview with Mr. Joachim Aasan of @1990qual, http://italia1990.com)

 

For this Interview, I have the pleasure to ask questions from one of the duo that make up the fantastic website http://italia1990.com.

Mr. Aasan @1990qual took great time and interest in responding all the questions with context and detail.

The Interview will be divided in three parts, part a (World Cup Qualifiers), part b (Preparations ahead of the World Cup) and part c (World Cup Finals).


Questions and Analysis: 

The Interviewee is:

Mr. Joachim Aasan

Mr. Aasan’s contact info:

On Twitter: @1990qual

Website: http://italia1990.com


Part a-World Cup Qualifiers:

Soccernostalgia Question: What was the state of Czechoslovakian Football in the Fall of 1988?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: With the highly acclaimed 1988 European Championships already history, albeit a recent one, the international footballing agenda was about to embark on the qualification for the 1990 World Cup. Czechoslovakia had failed to qualify for a major international tournament since their participation at the 1982 World Cup, when they had bowed out at the first group stage, managing two draws only, against WC debutants Kuwait and later, more respectably, France. Since the 1982 World Cup, Czechoslovakia towards the end of the European summer six years later had no remaining names from the 22 who had travelled to Spain. They had also since gone through four national team managers, with the latest being legendary former player Josef Masopust. Returning, as he had indeed been in charge of their 1982 troops, to the position was 52 year old Jozef Vengloš. He had a doctorate in physical education earned in Bratislava as far back as in 1955. At club level, no team from the domestic league had ventured beyond the quarter-finals stage in either of the three European competitions, and even that stage had only been reached twice over the course of the past five seasons. Czechoslovakia were turning into something of a European footballing mediocrity. Back at national team level, a humiliating 3-0 loss in Finland in the qualification for the 1988 Euro would have strongly limited any optimism they still harboured at that time for reaching the competition proper in West Germany. Denmark ultimately qualified at Czechoslovakia's expense. So, against this backdrop, Vengloš had needed to assemble a squad strong enough to challenge in a tough-looking qualification group for Italia '90, where they'd come up against Belgium, Portugal, and Switzerland, with Luxembourg providing the cannon fodder. Still, with two World Cup berths up for grabs, they must have considered themselves as likely candidates for participation, despite their third-rank status.


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 15, April 1990

(Jozef Venglos and Vaclav Jezek)


Soccernostalgia Question: The last time Czechoslovakia had been in the World Cup had been in 1982 with Jozef Venglos as Manager. He was re-appointed in 1988 for the 1990 World Cup qualifiers. What were the expectations in a Group with Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland and Luxembourg?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: While I carefully touched on this already in reply to the previous question, I think Czechoslovakia would've felt that they were in with a shout, although they had been drawn from pot 3, behind first seeds Belgium and second seeds Portugal. While the Belgians under legendary manager Guy Thys remained favourites in what was still a fairly open group, Vengloš must have felt that they could give Portugal a run for their money with regards to finishing runners-up. Certainly, at home, whether it be in Bratislava or in Prague, Czechoslovakia would be a match for any opponent. It should also be pointed out that Vengloš was working with Václav Ježek, a well-respected 64 year old coach who had indeed been in charge of the national team during their magnificent triumph in the 1976 European Championships. For this, Ježek would later win the vote, in regards to the country's greatest manager in the 20th century. He'd won domestic championships with Sparta, and he'd worked abroad both in the Netherlands and, most recently, in Switzerland.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: His job was made harder even before the qualifiers when on July 1988, vital National team elements: Lubos Kubik and Ivo Knofilcek defected to the West during their club, Slavia Prague’s tour of West Germany. Describe the players’ status and its implication on the National Team?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: Czechoslovakia in this era had a number of good footballers. Still, in order to stand a fair chance of actually qualifying for the World Cup, Mr Vengloš would need to have available to him every talented player within the country's realm. Slavia Prague had been preparing for the upcoming domestic season in West Germany in the summer of '88, and both Knoflíček and Kubík had opted to try their luck in the West through defecting. They had both featured for Czechoslovakia in their impressive 1-0 friendly win in Copenhagen on June 1, as the Danish had been in preparation for the upcoming European Championships, with Kubík even netting the solitary goal. They were already among the more senior members of the Czechoslovakian team, as the 24 year old Kubík, a stylish midfield playmaker with a gifted left foot, earned his 19th cap in Denmark, and forward Knoflíček, 26 years of age, was winning his 26th. In losing them both for the entire qualification campaign, as they'd both be expelled from the national team for a year and a half, Vengloš would need to rethink. It is also worth noting how Czechoslovakia through 1988 only ever had those two representatives from Slavia Prague, with city rivals Sparta the chief supplier for the national team with no less than nine players turning out at country level during the course of the calendar year. Sparta had just won the league for the second campaign running. They'd go on and claim the next three Czechoslovakian first league titles, too.

 

Photo From: WC 90 - CORRIERE DELLO SPORT – GUIDA

(Lubos Kubik)


Soccernostalgia Question: Can you summarize Czechoslovakia’s qualification process for the 1988/89 season?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: I will try! Czechoslovakia got their campaign off the mark with an expected two points from their journey to Luxembourg, although the win might perhaps have been less impressive than they'd been hoping for, given the fact that the Swiss had already visited the same venue and won even more comprehensively (4-1). Their goals had come from midfield schemer Ivan Hašek and libero and team captain Jozef Chovanec. In a group totalling 20 fixtures, eight per team, Czechoslovakia would only play twice in the autumn of '88, with their next match being group favourites Belgium on home soil in Bratislava. Despite pinning their opponents back for large chunks of the game, the Czechoslovaks could not find a way past the impressive Preud'homme, and the game finished goalless in front of nearly 50 000 people in Bratislava. Still, by the turn of the calendar year, Vengloš' team found themselves atop the qualification table, with their next fixture the return leg in Belgium at the end of April. By that point, the Belgians had claimed another vital away point through levelling late in Portugal, while the Portuguese themselves had picked up a total of five points from three home ties, having defeated both Luxembourg and Switzerland in the process. This had left Czechoslovakia trailing both the Belgians and the Portuguese, so they'd have been looking to get something out of the game in Brussels. However, on the day, the Red Devils put them to the sword and won by 2-1, despite Czechoslovakia putting up a fine battle and only losing to a late Degryse strike. They also saw the return to national team action of defenders Straka and Kocian, who were by now plying their trade in the West German Bundesliga. A routine 4-0 home win over Luxembourg saw Czechoslovakia's qualification campaign back on the rails, and a 1-0 away win in Switzerland courtesy of Skuhravý's third goal in two matches saw them secure a third win in five. This meant that by the summer of 1989 they were well positioned only a point behind the Belgians, although Portugal, who had yet to play away, were just two points in their wake, with a match to spare. The crunch game came on Oct 6, with Portugal the visitors in Prague. They had completed their first two away ties of the qualification in losing comprehensively in Belgium and then vitally winning in Switzerland, so that prior to kick-off, they were both on seven points from five matches. Despite losing striker Griga to an early red card before 20 minutes of action, the hosts claimed a hugely important win by the margin of 2-1. Both goals had come courtesy of shrewd midfield man Bílek. A fourth straight qualification win subsequently followed as Switzerland were sent packing after 3-0 in Prague. Significantly, this meant Czechoslovakia were two points ahead of Portugal and with a handsome seven goals cushion before both countries' final qualifier: their head to head in Lisbon. Portugal were never going to win by the four goals demanded of them to pip the Czechoslovakians, and despite the hosts doing what they could to try and achieve that win, Stejskal's inspired performance between the sticks ultimately saw to that Czechoslovakia could return home with a scoreless draw. The point meant they were qualified for Italia '90, and only second to group winners Belgium on goals scored. It had ultimately been a very fine qualification campaign by Vengloš' squad.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Czechoslovakia’s sweeper Jozef Chovanec became the first Czechoslovakian player under the age of 30 to transfer to a European side when he joined PSV Eindhoven in November 1988 (as a future replacement for Ronald Koeman). How was this transfer regarded at the time?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: I believe Chovanec, 28 at the time, didn't transfer to PSV until the turn of the year, as he still featured for Sparta domestically in December '88. He'd then make his debut in the Dutch league in February '89, playing alongside such greats of the game as Gerets, Vanenburg, (Ronald) Koeman and not least Romário. Any Eastern European player to make the move from behind the Iron Curtain and on to the Western European scene naturally raised some debate. Chovanec was a key man for club and country alike, and was among Vengloš' most trusted players, typically being used in the libero position. Furthermore, he was also the captain of his country, a distinction he must have held with great pride. Fellow international defenders Kocian and Straka had earlier completed their moves to West German football, so a pattern was beginning to emerge. It had only seemed reasonable that players of this calibre would move abroad once they were allowed to by the age of 28.

 

Photo From: Soccer International, Issue 4, April 1990

(Jozef Chovanec)


Soccernostalgia Question: He struggled at the club and eventually drifted into midfield and Venglos chose to place him in midfield as well. Explain this decision?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: Chovanec obviously arrived at a club which were reigning Dutch and European champions, so it was never going to be a foregone conclusion that he'd become a regular starter right away. Like any player moving from one country to another, he'd need time to adapt, both to his new surroundings and to the way PSV boss Guus Hiddink wanted him to contribute. The PSV libero role belonged to a player of Ronald Koeman's calibre, so it went without saying that Chovanec's opportunity to stake a claim for a starting berth likely lay elsewhere. He was an accomplished player on the ball, and he had fine physical attributes, and so was an adept man in the centre of the pitch. With Kocian back in the mix internationally, the now St. Pauli defender would look to occupy the national team's libero position, although for the couple of fixtures against Belgium (away) and Luxembourg (home), it had indeed been Chovanec who had got the nod for the spare man at the back job, with Kocian in the holding midfield role. They would swap roles for the remainder of the qualification, with Chovanec probably offering more quality in possession than Kocian was capable of.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: After his transfer Venglos took away the captaincy from Chovanec and made Ivan Hasek his new captain. Venglos explained that he wanted a home-based player to be the Captain. What do you think of this decision?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: The manager's decision probably rested mainly on the fact that it was far easier for him to maintain a close connection with Hašek than with Chovanec after the latter's switch abroad. The highly energetic Hašek remained a key player for club and country alike, while as we've already touched on, Chovanec would need some time in order to properly get going at his new club. Stripping the now Netherlands based player of the captaincy could surely not be seen as any form of punishment, nor should it be viewed as particularly dramatic. Chovanec would still remain key to Vengloš.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Getting back to the two defectors, Lubos Kubik returned to Czechoslovakia and joined Italian side Fiorentina in the summer of 1989. Ivo Knofilcek would have to wait until December 1989 before joining West German side St. Pauli (18 months of inactivity). How is their action looked upon historically?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: First of all: Their story is a remarkable one. It had been Knoflíček's idea originally to defect, and as he was sharing room with Kubík on Slavia Prague's 1988 summer camp in Hannover, West Germany, he persuaded his team mate to join him. It had been Derby County in England who had wanted Knoflíček, much on the back of his two excellent goals for Czechoslovakia against Wales in qualification for the 1988 Euro. Their owner, famous media mogul Robert Maxwell, was himself of Czechoslovak origin, and had been the instigator behind the move. However, in defecting, Knoflíček and Kubík were given 18 months long bans by the football federation, and since they were without official documents, there was no way they were going to enter the UK. They spent half a year at Maxwell's holiday residence in Spain until they obtained Bolivian (!) passports, which would eventually allow them entry into the United Kingdom. Still, once there all they could do was train, and the situation was obviously a tricky one for all parties. While Kubík would return back home to Czechoslovakia for a while, Knoflíček opted to try his luck in Italy, where he had what he thought would be a stop-over with Foggia prior to a move to Juventus. However, whilst there, he was contacted by Ján Kocian, a former team mate from the national side, who was by that time playing for St. Pauli in the West German topflight. Knoflíček was inspired by their conversations, and would travel to Hamburg, looking to impress. He must have done so, as under coach Helmut Schulte he would make his debut for the club in a 2-1 home win against Borussia Monchengladbach in December. Matchwinner? Ivo Knoflíček. Kubík would end up at Fiorentina, where he made his debut at the start of the 1989/90 season, as his ban had been lifted by the FA once he'd returned to his home land. While all of this appears surreal by today's standards, it was very much a fact for players from behind the old Iron Curtain that they were only allowed to join clubs in the West after fulfilling certain criteria, of which age was probably the main one. So it is in this context that Knoflíček and Kubík must be

 

Soccernostalgia Question: The World Cup qualification coincided with the Fall of Communism in Eastern Europe. In fact, Ivan Hasek actually addressed a crowd in November during the protests. Can you give more detail?

Mr. Joachim Aasan @1990qual response: What was unfolding across Eastern Europe around this time was of such proportions, totally unprecedented, and something which obviously was of huge historical significance. The fall of communism and ultimately the break-up of the Soviet Union would have implications also for football, as clubs in Eastern Europe would no longer able to hold on to their major assets. In Czechoslovakia, their 'liberation' became known as the 'Velvet Revolution', and it took place in the second half of November '89. In an interview made by French football magazine 'Onze mondial' with Sparta Prague and the national team's midfield man Michal Bílek, the then 24 year old recollects the memorable days which would redefine the entire Eastern Europe: "We were due to play Inter Bratislava in a league match, and just prior to this students approached us and explained to us what had happened in the protests the previous day, on Nov 17, which they had organized. They asked for our support, which we did not hesitate in providing. The Inter game was called off. Subsequently, we, the Sparta players, released a press statement denouncing the abuse of the totalitarian government. On Nov 21 we joined the general strike. We marched from our stadium to downtown, flags in hand. On Wenceslas Square, our captain Ivan Hašek harangued the extatic crowd, and was received with a standing ovation. I will never forget this date, it was wonderful, totally surreal. The revolution changed my life. That day I stopped being just a footballer; I became a free man."


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 21, October 1990

(Ivan Hasek)



Wednesday, August 24, 2022

Soccer Memories-part 41 (The recall of Diego Maradona vs. Australia in 1993 with interviews with Mr. Esteban Bekerman, Argentine Journalist, Football History researcher and Professor of Football History, and Mr. Mark Boric, Australian Blogger and Historian)

 Following the end of the 1990 World Cup, it seemed like Diego Maradona had finished off with International Football. In fact, any National Team comeback was not even in the discussion as he received a Drugs ban in 1991 and suspended for more than a year.

In the meantime, new National Team Manager Alfio Basile had built a team around the goalscoring talents of Gabriel Batistuta and featuring the likes of Diego Simeone, Leonardo Rodriguez, and Dario Franco, among others.

Captain Oscar Ruggeri (Captain in Maradona’s absence) and Claudio Caniggia (prior to his own drugs ban in 1993) provided the experience in this young team.

Basile’s side, in Maradona’s absence, had been so successful that they had won the 1991 and 1993 editions of Copa America and were on an undefeated run since the end of the 1990 World Cup.

Photo From: World Soccer, July 1991

(Alfio Basile)

Following his suspension, Maradona joined Spanish side Sevilla in 1992. He was recalled for two prestige friendlies in early 1993. The Argentine Federation Centenary match vs. Brazil and the Artemio Franchi Cup vs. European Champions Denmark.

A few months later, Sevilla sacked Maradona after many breaches in discipline. At this point Maradona seemed lost to Football.

Maradona was beset by personal problems, disinterested by the game, and headed for retirement.

The National Team seemed just fine without him as it started the 1994 World Cup qualifiers in the summer and fall of 1993.

However, after nearly three years of success, the first cracks would appear in Basile’s Argentina.

While Paraguay and Peru were not obstacles in Argentina’s Group, Pacho Maturana’s Colombia were something else.

Since 1987, this Colombia Generation led by Carlos Valderrama had been improving year by year and had qualified for the 1990 World Cup. By now they were further strengthened with the new star of South American Football, Faustino Asprilla.

Colombia defeated Argentina (2-1), thus ending Basile’s long unbeaten run. This was Argentina’s first loss since the 1990 World Cup Final.

All was not lost, and Argentina had to defeat Colombia at home on September 5th, 1993, to qualify for the World Cup. Given Argentina’s form in the last couple of years this was not beyond them, and everyone expected a win at home to establish the natural order of things and book its place at the World Cup.

We all know what happened next. The spectacle was all from the Colombian end as Argentina imploded and defeated (0-5).


Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3857, 1993

(September 5, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Argentina 0-Colombia 5)



Argentina still had one more opportunity to qualify. They had to face the Oceania region winner, Australia in a home and away play-off series.

The present squad was more than capable of such a task, but panic had set in. There was now a clamor for Diego Maradona’s recall to rescue his Nation.

In the meantime, he had joined Argentine side Newell’s Old Boys to regain his fitness. Prior to the first match vs. Australia, he had played a friendly and one League match.

On September 23rd, 1993, Basile in a radio program with Maradona, promised he would pick him vs. Australia if he proved his fitness.

Maradona came back to help his Nation, as a World Cup without Argentina was unthinkable.

Basile also made some changes to the squad ahead of the matches vs. Australia. Ricardo Altamirano, Leonardo Rodriguez, Gustavo Zapata, and Ramon Medina Bello were made to be scapegoats and dropped.

Apart from Maradona, Basile recalled Sergio Vazquez in defense and called up uncapped defensive pair José Chamot and Carlos Mac Allister.

In midfield, the uncapped Hugo Leonardo Perez was also called up, while upfront, Abel Balbo was recalled.

Basile maintained Sergio Goycoechea in goal and Ruggeri, Redondo, Simeone and Batistuta (Though Ruggeri and Simeone were absent in the first leg).

While facing Australia seemed like a lifeline for the Argentines, this was not the Australia of the past.

By the 1990s, they had many players plying their trade in Europe. These included Frank Farina, Ned Zelic and Robbie Slater among others.

 

For the first leg, this changed Argentina side traveled to Sydney to face the Australians on October 31st, 1993.

Both Maradona and Balbo justified their recall, with the Roma striker heading in Maradona’s cross for the opener.

Australia would pull a goal back through Aurelio Vidmar just before halftime.

The match ended as a (1-1) tie, with the advantage to the Argentines as the away team.


Photo From: World Soccer, December 1993

(October 31, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)


Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3865, 1993

(October 31, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



The return leg was two weeks later at the ‘El Monumental’ on November 17th. Oscar Ruggeri and Diego Simeone were back for Argentina (in place of Borelli and Basualdo) with the rest of the team unchanged from the first leg.

Argentina defeated Australia (1-0) to book its ticket for USA. In the 58th minute, Batistuta’s cross from a narrow angle was deflected into the net.

Argentina avoided the humiliation of non-qualification for a World Cup (for the first time since 1970).


Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 65, June 1994

(November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 60, January 1994

(November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Maradona was now part of the Team for the World Cup, along with Balbo. Claudio Caniggia’s suspension was due to end just in time before the World Cup.

The story would not have a happy ending as Maradona would once again be involved in a Drugs scandal at the World Cup.

Alfio Basile would be on his way out in following the failure at the World Cup.

It is open to conjecture whether Maradona would have even been called up without the disaster vs. Colombia.

In any case, this was an aged Maradona and not the player in the 80s.

Perhaps, Basile should have kept faith with the team he had built but was forced to include Maradona after he had stepped up when needed.

Following the World Cup, Daniel Alberto Passarella was appointed as Manager and that is another story.

 

Questions and Analysis

I have asked Mr. Esteban Bekerman, Argentinean Journalist, Football History researcher and Professor of Football History, and Mr. Mark Boric, AustralianCritic and Historian, to give their respective perspectives.

Mr. Esteban Bekerman is an Argentina Football Historian and Journalist-Professor at the ‘Circulo de Periodistas Deportivas y en Taller de Investigacion Historia sobre Futbol (Circle of Sports Journalists and Historical Research workshop on Football’.

He is the founder of http://entretiempos.com.ar/ , center of Football Culture that includes production of magazines, books, workshops, and consulting events.

 

Mr. Bekerman’s contact info:

Twitter: @egerbek

Twitter: @entretiempos_ar

Website: http://entretiempos.com.ar/

Blog: estebanbekerman.blogpsot.com


Mr. Boric is a resident of Melbourne. He is a Former player and administrator.  Blogger and historian. His blog http://melbournesoccer.blogspot.com/ is an archive of Australian Football History.

 

Mr. Boric’s contact info:

Twitter: @MarkBoric

Blog: http://melbournesoccer.blogspot.com/


Argentine Perspective:

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Did Alfio Basile himself want to recall Maradona for the matches vs. Australia or was he forced? Was it more of a public pressure or mostly from the press to recall Maradona?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: He wanted to call him, but also, he was in a way forced to do it by the press and the public opinion.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Did Maradona show any reticence for a comeback or was he insistent?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: He didn't show reticence but also wasn't insistent. He just put himself totally at disposal.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Regarding the other newcomers selected vs. Australia (Chamot, Perez, etc.). were they Basile’s choices or was there some pressure from Maradona?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: All Basile's choices. No pressure from Maradona at all.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: In between the matches, there was a report that some of the players wanted Oscar Ruggeri to regain the captaincy. Any truth about this?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: No, with Maradona on the squad it was clear he had to have the captaincy again.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Before the implosion vs. Colombia, was there an indication that such a disaster was on the horizon or was it a complete surprise?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: It was a surprise. No one could have imagined such a catastrophe.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Ahead of the matches vs. Australia, was there confidence or was there some nervousness after what had happened vs. Colombia?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response: There was some nervousness for sure.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: In closing, given what would happen with Maradona at the World Cup, do you think Basile would have been better off to take the side he had built in the last few years without Maradona?

 

Mr. Esteban Bekerman @egerbek Response:No, I think not. In fact, Leo Rodriguez (Maradona's natural replacement and Basile's first choice before Diego's comeback) had a very poor performance against Bulgaria. And in my opinion, he never had the quality for being Argentina's number 10 in a World Cup. Ortega played well against Romania, but he also couldn't make forgive Maradona by his own.

 

 

 

Australian Perspective:

 

Soccernostalgia Question: What was the mood among Australians ahead of these matches vs. Argentina?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: Ahead of the games there was a mood of excitement, tempered with some trepidation. Excitement because Australian players were starting to make inroads in Europe and the Socceroos were on the rise. It was a taste of the big time, it saw soccer reports jumping a few places in the televsion evening news running order instead of a cursory mention at the end of it. Facing a team which had won the World Cup less than a decade prior, with one of the world's greatest ever players returning to it, was quite the final hurdle though.

 

 

Soccernostalgia Question: Australia Manager Eddie Thomson had to appeal for Mark Bosnich to end his International Retirement ahead of these matches. Was there public clamor for his return?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: Yes, Bosnich had already shown a superstar quality which would have most placing him above Robert Zabica and Mark Schwarzer at that stage.


Soccernostalgia Question: Was there a feeling of unfairness as Australia had to continue with play-offs to qualify for World Cups?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: A little, but that probably increased more the in the following World Cup qualification campaign. In 1993 the "unfairness" was more a lament of "why did it have to be Argentina?" Maybe because there was the feeling that Australia had let itself down in the previous attempt in not reaching the Interncontinental Play-Off, the inequity of the qualification process had yet to brought fully into focus.


Soccernostalgia Question: Was there some excitement that Maradona would be in Australia?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: Yes, it was enormous. He was a player who even those that did not follow the game had heard of. He was a player fans would stakeout airport and hotel arrivals at all hours to get a glimpse of.


Soccernostalgia Question: At this point there were a considerable number of Australian players in European sides, was there a feeling this generation had a genuine chance to qualify?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: Yes, it was considered possible without having to be a version of "The Miracle on Ice". The game was gaining momentum in Australia and there was positivity in anticipating the future.

 

Soccernostalgia Question: David Mitchell did not want to be involved in the second after not starting in the first leg. Was his absence felt?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: Probably not greatly. It was always going to be a stiff task to hold Argentina at their home in the second leg and going about that to remain in the tie for as long as possible would have been foremost ahead of what the striking options were.


Soccernostalgia Question: Any takeaways from these ties from an Australian perspective?

Mr. Mark Boric @MarkBoric Response: The qualification campaigns for the 1978, 1982 and 1990 World Cups were generally seen as failures by Australia to perform to their best. With 1986 and 1994 the Socceroos played more to their potential but faced opponents they were not expected to beat. After the games against Argentina expectations were definitely growing.

 

Date: October 31, 1993

Competition: FIFA World Cup Qualifier-Playoff, First Leg

Result: Australia 1-Argentina 1

Venue: Sydney- Sydney Football Stadium

Attendance: 43,967

Referee: Sandor Puhl (Hungary)

Linesmen: Sandor Varga and Sandor Marton (both Hungary)

Kick-off time: 17:30

Goalscorers:

(Australia): Aurelio Vidmar 43

(Argentina): Abel Balbo 37

Summary of goals:

0:1 (37th minute, Argentina): Maradona’s cross from the right side was headed in by Balbo.

1:1 (43rd minute, Australia): From the middle, Zelic sent a pass to the right side, Tony Vidmar’s cross from the right was knocked in by Aurelio Vidmar.

Lineups:

Australia:

1-Mark Bosnich (Aston Villa Football Club-Birmingham / England)

12-Milan Ivanovic (Adelaide City)

5-Alex Tobin (Adelaide City)

13-Mehmet Durakovic (South Melbourne)

19-Tony Vidmar (Adelaide City) (7-David Mitchell (Millwall Football Club / England) 72)

10-Jason Van Blerk (Go Ahead Eagles / Holland)    

4-Ned Zelic (Ballspielverein Borussia Dortmund 1909 e.V. / Germany) 

6-Paul Wade (South Melbourne)

11-Robbie Slater (Racing Club Lens / France)

8-Aurelio Vidmar (Waregem / Belgium)       

9-Graham Arnold (FC Liege / Belgium)        

 

Coach: Eddie Thomson (Scotland)

Booked: Robbie Slater, David Mitchell

Other Substitutes:

Robert Zabica (Adelaide City)

Dominic Longo (Cercle Brugge / Belgium)

Stan Lazaridis (West Adelaide)

Jason Polak (South Melbourne)

 

Team Captain: Paul Wade

Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas

Uniform Colors: Yellow (Three Green Diagonal stripes) Shirts, Yellow Shorts, Yellow Socks

 

Argentina:

1-Sergio Javier Goycochea (Club Atlético River Plate- Buenos Aires)

2-Jorge Horacio Borelli (Racing Club de Avellaneda-Avellaneda - Buenos Aires)

6-Sergio Fabian Vázquez (Club Deportivo Universidad Católica -Santiago / Chile)

14-José Antonio Chamot (Foggia Calcio / Italy)

3-Carlos Javier Mac Allister (Club Atlético Boca Juniors -Buenos Aires)

15-Hugo Leonardo Perez (Club Atlético Independiente Avellaneda)

5- Fernando Carlos Redondo Neri (Club Deportivo Tenerife / Spain)

8-José Horacio Basualdo (Club Atlético Vélez Sársfield -Buenos Aires) (17-Gustavo Miguel Zapata (Yokohoma Marinos / Japan) 70)

10- Diego Armando Maradona (Club Atlético Newell´s Old Boys –Rosario)

9- Gabriel Omar Batistuta (Associazione Calcio Fiorentina-Firezne / Italy)

18-Abel Eduardo Balbo (Associazione Sportiva Roma / Italy) (13-Fernando Gabriel Caceres (Real Zaragoza / Spain) 89)

 

Coach: Alfio Ruben Basile

Booked: Diego Armando Maradona, Carlos Javier Mac Allister, Hugo Leonardo Perez

Other Substitutes:

Luis Alberto Islas (Club Atlético Independiente Avellaneda)

Leonardo Adrián Rodríguez (Atalanta Bergamasca Calcio / Italy) 

Ramon Ismael Medina Bello (Club Atlético River Plate- Buenos Aires) 

 

Team Captain: Diego Armando Maradona

Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas

Uniform Colors: Blue/White vertically striped Shirts, Black Shorts, White Socks

Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3865, 1993

(October 31, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3865, 1993

(October 31, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3865, 1993

(October 31, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)











Date: November 17, 1993

Competition: FIFA World Cup Qualifier-Playoff, Second Leg

Result: Argentina 1-Australia 0

Venue: Buenos Aires -Antonio Vespuci Alberti (El Monumental) (River Plate)

Attendance: 59,768 (67,000 in other sources)

Referee: Peter Mikkelsen (Denmark)

Linesmen: Christensen and Ohmeyr (both Denmark)

Kick-off time: 21:15

Goalscorers:

(Argentina): (Own Goal) 58

(Australia): None

Summary of goals:

1:0 (58th minute, Argentina): On the right side, Batistuta attempted a cross, his shot was deflected by Tobin and lobbed over Zabica.

Lineups:

Argentina:

1-Sergio Javier Goycochea (Club Atlético River Plate- Buenos Aires)

14-José Antonio Chamot (Foggia Calcio / Italy)

2-Sergio Fabian Vázquez (Club Deportivo Universidad Católica -Santiago / Chile)

6- Oscar Alfredo Ruggeri (Club Deportivo America-Mexico City / Mexico)

3-Carlos Javier Mac Allister (Club Atlético Boca Juniors -Buenos Aires)

15-Hugo Leonardo Perez (Club Atlético Independiente Avellaneda)

5- Fernando Carlos Redondo Neri (Club Deportivo Tenerife / Spain)

8-Diego Pablo Simeone (Sevilla Fútbol Club / Spain)

10- Diego Armando Maradona (Club Atlético Newell´s Old Boys –Rosario)

9- Gabriel Omar Batistuta (Associazione Calcio Fiorentina-Firezne / Italy)

18-Abel Eduardo Balbo (Associazione Sportiva Roma / Italy) (20-Gustavo Miguel Zapata (Yokohoma Marinos / Japan) 70)

 

Coach: Alfio Ruben Basile

Booked: Oscar Alfredo Ruggeri, Sergio Fabian Vázquez, Diego Pablo Simeone

Other Substitutes:

Luis Alberto Islas (Club Atlético Independiente Avellaneda)

Fernando Gabriel Caceres (Real Zaragoza / Spain)

Leonardo Adrián Rodríguez (Atalanta Bergamasca Calcio / Italy) 

Ramon Ismael Medina Bello (Club Atlético River Plate- Buenos Aires) 

 

Team Captain: Diego Armando Maradona

Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas

Uniform Colors: Blue/White vertically striped Shirts, Black Shorts, White Socks

 

 

Australia:

20-Robert Zabica (Adelaide City)

12-Milan Ivanovic (Adelaide City)

5-Alex Tobin (Adelaide City)

13-Mehmet Durakovic (South Melbourne)

19-Tony Vidmar (Adelaide City) (17-Carl Veart (Adelaide City) 64)

11-Robbie Slater (Racing Club Lens / France)

10-Jason Van Blerk (Go Ahead Eagles / Holland)    

6-Paul Wade (South Melbourne)

8-Aurelio Vidmar (Waregem / Belgium)

7-Graham Arnold (FC Liege / Belgium)

9-Frank Farina (Racing Strasbourg / France)

 

Coach: Eddie Thomson (Scotland)

Booked: Milan Ivanovic, Mehmet Durakovic, Aurelio Vidmar

Other Substitutes:

Mark Schwarzer (Marconi Stallions)

Dominic Longo (Cercle Brugge / Belgium)

Stan Lazaridis (West Adelaide)

Jason Polak (South Melbourne)


Team Captain: Paul Wade

Official Kit Supplier/Designer: Adidas

Uniform Colors: Yellow (Three Green Diagonal stripes) Shirts, Yellow Shorts, Yellow Socks

 

Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3868, 1993

(November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3868, 1993

(November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: El Grafico, Issue 3868, 1993

(November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)



Photo From: Onze-Mondial, Issue 60, January 1994

(Argentina squad, November 17, 1993, World Cup Qualifier, Australia 1-Argentina 1)